in the meanwhile, the topic challenge is taking place among the whole group.this week’s topic is a very heated discussion over capital punishment as a punishment for homicide. morals are being tested and words may come out that a person may regret. Strong personalities may clash and this may ultimately cause group disunity.

"This week's topic is: Capital Punishment. Does it solve the problem of curbing homicides? is it the moral solution to punish the murderers?" –cybermolehost

"I would think people who kill, by and large, are not concerned with the circumstances when they're planning or doing the deed. A lot of people who do kill others are walking on the edge of death themselves anyway, so why should they care? They'd get to spend 20+ years in a safer environment than they would if they didn't go to jail." –john

"I strongly support the death penalty. My logic is simply, the punishment needs to fit the crime in order to work as a deterrent. it sure the hell prevents repeat performances. A lot of these criminals figure if they get caught, they spend the rest of their lives warm, well-fed, and probably safer than they would be out on the streets. Knowing that they WILL die, quickly, might stop a few of them. And I mean quickly. No more of this lingering on death row for 18 years. 3 years max-file your appeals and that is it. Save the taxpayers money, thin the herd, cleanse the gene pool, all positive benefits." –dave

"I am *very* for the death penalty. I believe if you take someone's life, you should not be allowed to have yours. Period. I don't care *why* you killed them. I don't cry in what *condition* you were when you killed them. They're dead, now it's your turn. End of story." –annette

"First, let me make this clear - I don't have one violent bone in my body. And as for death penalty - how can you answer violence with violence/ murder with murder? I don't believe ANYONE in this world has the right to take someone else’s life. Look at how the human race so easily just step on an ant, smash a fly or bait a mousetrap. Why do people do that? Because the animals are annoying? I look at it this way - they deserve to live just as much as we do. NO ONE deserves to die. Even if they've done harm to someone else. I say let them live - give them a lifetime in prison, let them suffer with guilt." -tine

"If the situation were reversed and, God forbid, one of my loved ones committed murder, that would really put my beliefs to the ultimate test. The worst thing in the world for a father would be to see his son die before him. On the other hand, for my son to commit murder would mean that I lost him long ago and he had turned from my teachings so drastically that I probably would not have much in the way of parental feelings for him." –dave

I agree that these people are a menace to our society, and should not be allowed to roam the streets freely, so this is where incarceration comes into play. The remedy to this problem is prison reform rather than a murder for murder. When we in fact take the life of the person that took life of another do we not in-turn become the new murderer? We believe that the murderer had no right to take a human life, so why do we have the right to do the same?" –larry

"If one of my loved ones was murdered I would want the killer to get the death penalty, no doubt. I'd probably feel like killing them myself. If someone I knew committed murder, I would expect them to get the death penalty also. If they could actually do such a thing, then that's what they'd deserve." –jason

"If someone kills another human being, they do not deserve to live. It doesn't matter if they're related to me or not. Every murderer is related to *someone*." –annette

"In Norway they abandoned the death penalty for ALL crimes in 1905. The longest prisontime a convicted criminal/murderer can get in Norway is 21 years, which it referred to as "lifetime". Today, Norway is one of the most peaceful contries in the world. Sure there is crime - but homicide is rare. Personally, I believe in forgiveness. I couldn't live a lifetime without forgiving someone. Besides – look at the world today, there's so much shit going on there's no wonder we see so much evil. We need to do some major changes before we see a decrease in violence and killings. Until then, we just have to blame ourselves for what is going on." -tine

"I can't honestly give a way that I would feel if a family member were murdered. The closest that I've experienced to this was having a friend in high school get killed by a drunk driver. And I must admire the stance that her parents took. It was a trying ordeal for them, but they were able to forgive. They even went so far as to visit him in jail and offer forgiveness. I think that I learned a great lesson from this. I hope that I am never faced with something like this, but I hope that I am able to act much in the same way as they were able to." –larry

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